fighting for the middle class, didn't believe in trickle-down government. the president didn't seem to have a message. the thing most shocking is a? all of the dimensions in which president is better than governor romney. like akt, that he can connect with voters, he has a message, affable. all of those things, governor romney outshined the president in a wide margin. more likeable. told stories, told far tynarrat. >> he looked like he wanted it more. it's like football, and after a while you wonder who wants to win this game. >> it seems -- >> let's move on to the vp debate. joe biden and paul ryan. let me make a prediction. i think joe biden will verbally destroy paul ryan, and i think he will the salvation of barack obama. >> you want to bet? >> i tend to agree with you, piers. senator biden is someone who is a fire brand for sure. and one of the things that came out of this debate, we can all agree president obama did not bring his "a" game and romney had a good night it will take a lot more to undo what has taken two years to burn in voters' brains. >>